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System boiler installationin Milton Keynes
A system boiler is the sensible answer for a busy house with more than one bathroom. Here is how it differs from what you probably have, and what changes when the loft tanks come out.
- Built for two or more bathrooms
- Loft tanks removed
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What a system boiler actually is
It heats your radiators and fills a hot water cylinder. The pump and the expansion vessel live inside the boiler casing.
The giveaway is what is missing. There are no tanks sitting in the roof, because the heating side runs sealed and under pressure, topped up from the mains through a filling loop. The vessel that takes up the slack when heated water expands is built into the boiler, and so is the pump that pushes water round the radiators.
Hot water still comes from a cylinder, normally in an airing cupboard. The boiler heats a batch of it and the insulation holds the temperature until somebody wants a bath. That is the real difference from a combi: you are drawing on water that has already been heated instead of asking one appliance to heat it as it runs.
Plenty of Milton Keynes houses built between the 1970s and the 1990s started life with a cylinder on the landing and a pair of tanks above it. Moving that setup onto a sealed system is one of the most common upgrades on this housing stock, and it gives you the loft back.
Who it suits
The homes a system boiler is right for
It earns its keep where hot water demand is genuinely high, not where one person showers once a day.
- Two or more bathrooms that get used at the same time on a normal morning.
- A household of four or more, or anyone who fills baths rather than showers.
- A larger house with a lot of radiators, where the heating load is high as well.
- An incoming cold main that is too weak to keep a combi happy.
- A cylinder that is already there, in decent order, with a cupboard built around it.
If none of that describes your home, do not let anyone talk you into a cylinder you will not use. One bathroom, one or two people and a strong main usually points at acombi boiler installation instead. If the loft tanks are staying put for other reasons, readregular boiler installation.
The bit worth understanding
Unvented cylinders, explained plainly
An unvented cylinder is fed straight from the water mains. No cold tank in the loft, and hot water at the same pressure as your cold taps.
That is why people like them. Showers feel strong without a pump, hot and cold arrive balanced at a mixer tap, and a converted loft stays a loft. The catch is that it only works if the incoming main can deliver, so the installer tests pressure and flow before recommending one.
Because water is being stored hot and under mains pressure, an unvented cylinder carries safety devices and a discharge pipe that takes any release safely outside. At the storage sizes used for domestic hot water, fitting one is notifiable building work under the Building Regulations, and it must be installed by an installer qualified for unvented hot water systems. An installer registered with a competent person scheme for that work self certifies it. Anyone not registered has to notify building control before the cylinder goes in.
Ask for the installation and commissioning record, usually the Benchmark document, and keep it with the boiler paperwork. The safety devices are checked as part of the annual visit, so put the cylinder on the same appointment as the boiler when you bookboiler servicing.
Changing over
Regular to system conversion
The most common system boiler job in MK is not a like for like swap. It is stripping the loft out.
The feed and expansion tank and the cold water cistern come out of the roof, along with the pipework that fed them. The heating circuit is sealed, pressurised and given a filling loop. If you are also going unvented, the old vented cylinder goes as well and a mains fed one takes its place, with the discharge pipe run outside.
What you gain is loft space, better pressure at the taps, and one less thing in the roof that can leak through a bedroom ceiling. What you should check first is the radiators and the pipework. An older open vented system has spent years at very low pressure, and joints that never leaked before can weep once the system is sealed and brought up to pressure. A decent engineer will say so at the survey rather than discover it on the day.
Fitting day
What happens when the installer arrives
Roughly how the day runs, so you know what to expect and when the water goes off.
- The system is drained and the water and gas isolated.
- Old boiler off the wall. On a conversion, the loft tanks and any redundant pipework come out.
- Heating circuit sealed and a filling loop fitted, with pipework altered where the new unit sits.
- Cylinder connected, or a new one fitted and its safety devices and discharge pipe set up.
- Boiler hung, flue fitted and the condensate routed to a drain.
- System flushed, inhibitor added and a filter fitted before anything is brought up to temperature.
- Boiler and cylinder commissioned, controls set, paperwork completed and handed over.
A straight system for system swap is usually a day. Allow two where the loft is being cleared and a new cylinder is going in.
Budget
Guide price for a system boiler
Typical guide prices, your quote may differ. The written figure after a survey is the one that counts.
| Job | Guide price | What it covers |
|---|---|---|
| System boiler | £2,300 to £3,800 | Keeps your hot water cylinder |
That range assumes the cylinder stays. Clearing the loft, fitting a new unvented cylinder or moving the boiler to a different room all push a quote towards the top of it or past it. Thenew boiler cost page sets out every factor that moves the number.
We are a referral service, not an installer. The price you pay is agreed between you and the independent Gas Safe registered installer who surveys your home.
System boiler questions
System boilers, answered straight
Plain answers to what people in Milton Keynes ask before they replace a boiler.
What is the difference between a system boiler and a regular boiler?
Where the pump and the expansion sit. A system boiler has the pump and the expansion vessel built into its casing and runs the heating sealed and pressurised, so nothing is needed in the loft. A regular boiler relies on a feed and expansion tank up in the roof to do the same job, plus a cold water cistern feeding the cylinder. Both heat a cylinder. Only one of them needs the loft.
Do I have to replace the hot water cylinder at the same time?
Not always. If the cylinder is in sound condition, well insulated and the right size for the household, it can often stay. It has to be the right kind for the boiler though, and an old vented cylinder fed from a loft cistern cannot simply be plumbed onto a sealed system without changes. The engineer will look at its age, its insulation and its coil before telling you either way.
Will I still run out of hot water?
A cylinder holds a set amount, so yes, it is possible to empty one. The difference is that a cylinder lets several taps run hard at the same time without any of them going weak, which is exactly what a combi struggles with. Size the cylinder to how the household actually bathes and it recovers between uses without anyone noticing.
Is an unvented cylinder better than a vented one?
It is different rather than automatically better. An unvented cylinder is fed straight off the mains, so you get balanced pressure at hot and cold taps and showers that do not need a pump. It only works if the incoming main is strong enough, and it is a controlled piece of work with safety devices that must be checked every year. A vented cylinder is simpler and cheaper, but the hot water arrives at whatever pressure the loft cistern gives it.
Does a system boiler still need servicing every year?
Yes, and so does the cylinder if it is unvented. Manufacturers normally make an annual service by a Gas Safe registered engineer a condition of the warranty, and the service record is logged in the Benchmark checklist that came with the boiler. Miss a year and you risk the warranty when you most want it.
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